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April 17, 2005 Commentary (weekend edition)-
Today is 'bonus day' here at the free commentary section, as I am going to 'cut and paste' two sections from the members' area in here for people to read for free. I know the members who pay for the service probably won't like that, but if it helps bring in some new members, and keeps me motivated to keep doing the service (which takes an incredible amount of time and is not really 'cost effective' for me), it is worth it. Not that I'm going to post any big part of what I do in there, just some 'layout scenarios'. I wanted to share my ruminations, mostly.
Most of what I post in there are setups (in advance), how I may be managing plays as they unfold, nuances of what I am seeing, and detailed specifics about my methodology, including my latest work that I haven't published. I throw in some 'thoughts and ruminations' here and there. It's some of those thoughts that I will share today. I just want it to be clear that this is not representative of the average content of the members' section. I'll use quotes for the area I am lifting. I will do one 'lift', then something I just wrote up for here, and then finish with another 'lift'. Here goes.
"First I want to say that the trading aspects of this market are just stellar, again. This is what I live for as a trader. But I also noticed something very curious. As you all know, I have my 'e-mail indicator' that I use to gauge things. I started to see this correlation lately that sort of baffles me. When the market is going down and the trading action is what I consider great (but down) the 'e-mail indicator' goes to almost zero, and the book sales slow right down.
I've been following a few more forums and boards lately, in a somewhat cursory manner, to see what the attitudes are. These are boards where supposedly good traders hang out. I am seeing a lot of people looking for the bottom, and people getting hammered holding on to longs. Can it really be that a lot of 'traders' out there are still totally upside biased? I thought all the 90's bubble bull traders were long since washed out, and all that survived were those with some solid trading fundamentals behind them. I heard a lot, and I mean a lot, of talk like: 'When is this going to stop, I can take it...' and 'I just don't understand this bloodletting, I'm getting killed'.
I am also hearing things like 'Terrible', 'This makes no sense', 'Stupid', and on and on. These are not things an all-around, through all cycles successful trader would be saying, in my opinion. These are things a bull market only trader would say. Now I see why my 'e-mail indicator' went to almost zero, and things slowed right down. On the other hand, this market is simply superb for my methodology. Now, I know just about everyone in here quite well from my past interactions, and the fact that almost everyone is a full book set buyer, and even a student. So I know I'm preaching to the choir here.
What I'm trying to do, though, is dig into the background of the players in this game, and see who is moving the market, and who is 'getting hosed'. Now I have more of a feel, I think, for what a lot of 'traders' are thinking. The commercials added some back to their shorts this week, and are still very net short (don't get fooled by all the nonsense you hear out there about commercial stats, you must look at the mini data in my opinion, and incorporate that, as it is now a massive percentage of the contracts the commercials hold). Program trading is just off the scale, in the upper 50's all the time, and that recent 71.4% reading. And where are the inflows into mutual funds? I'm just looking at who's doing what.
I want to mention an observation I have here. This is not meant as a prediction at all, as I don't do those, and I'm not even saying it's likely. It's just an observation. This has an eerie similarity to the Friday before Black Monday in '87, to me. Yes, it's oversold, but it was on that Friday, too. Look at the position, on a daily chart, of the INDU on that Friday, and today. The markets, across the board, gave up a lot of key support areas, and the selling was relentless. Many 'average' climaxing indicators said that's it. I heard about TRIN and put/call and so on all day. But in extreme panic they go a lot further than they did.
If you look at things like the VIX, well, it hit 18.05. A nice jump, but a climax? Here's a trivia question for you. What did it hit in '87? 172.79. Trust me, this thing could implode right around all those 'climax' figures I heard from everyone on Friday. But don't get me wrong: I am not calling for a crash. Not even close. I am only saying I see some eerie similarities in the layout and mood I have never seen before. I was not watching the market in '87. I don't know what it felt like then. This is just an observation I wanted to throw out there, so that you understand that I'm simply not looking to bottom pick this.
I think it's possible this recent high could have been the start of the next leg down in the 'big' bear market, or 18 year rolling range we see after an 18 year (give or take) ramping cycle. Perhaps this it it, and soon we go to new highs. I can't predict, I just look for setups. At the most, as we will get into soon, I sketch out some possible scenarios that I can use for potential guidance. I hope this helps to bring some perspective to some of what I am observing in this market. So far, it has been following what I suspected, and discussed in detail in advance many times, since late last year as the commercials started to get wildly and historically short in a 'bull' market."
Okay, let's move on. I'll start with an update of the SPY play. I want to mention that this setup was posted well before the fact in the members' section, and I also posted it before the fact to a paid forum where I was asked to 'guest post'.

Chart 1
A lot has happened since we looked at this one. Shortly after the nice reaction off the area (recall it hit the bottom of the lower grouping to the penny), the 'manipulation rampers' as I like to call them showed up.
They ran it right up to the .886 retracement, which coincided with the very same offset for that downsloping ML, shown with another small black line (set this one up on the lower timeframe and you'll really see some detail on how clear this reversal point was, and how nice it was for a reentry or add-on for me). It then really went into the tank. The SPY showed no respect for the downsloping ML lower //.
My play, as I mentioned, was to take the SPY off on the initial thrust down and not hold it over last weekend, but to retain the options for the longer-term play. The option portion is based on the traded timeframe and size of the setup. I would then be using a management plan pretty much right out of Kane Trading on: Trade Management, with slight modifications, since what I lay out there is my general plan, and I adjust it a bit in each individual circumstance, based on my experience.
So far I don't have one single signal to start scaling out yet. As I have said many, many times, I have a 'give back' style, and to catch the big moves, the 'runners' like this, I have to give some back to be sure the move is over. That may not be suited to a lot of other traders, but it's my style. I try to maximize the 'runners' that I do catch.
Let's get to some more 'lifted' content from the members' section. "Lastly, let's look at some scenarios for the S&P.

Chart 2
Here's the most basic scenario and potential setup I am watching. The market may be correcting back in an ABCD pattern, set up to continue the trend up. We have a corrective ABCD pattern in the BC leg, which is the SPY setup I used for the short play. It goes down to complete the pattern, and off it goes.
I showed just the basic 1.000 price projection outline here. It's time to put full groupings together, look for the harmonicities, and any possible line synergies. The nice thing about this framework is it is about to happen, and is a simple straightforward application of the methodology, if it weren't for the 'context', the commercials, the nice 5 wave structure up on the weekly, and so on. It is a setup I have put together on my working charts, and one I will be watching for clues. It is a key area to be watching closely.
Next, I can move into some Elliot scenarios. We'll look at just one on the S&P weekly chart.

Chart 3
Maybe the market is in a wave 3 and not C, and it goes down beyond the ABCD pattern. I might be looking for a larger ABCD pattern to unfold, as sketched out on the chart. Then the 'bull market' resumes, and new highs are set. I did not scale the layout on the chart for time or price, I just 'roughed it out' for demonstration purposes.
One can come up with an almost infinite number of possible scenarios, and I don't spend a lot of time on that, but these two potential layouts have some use as far as helping me judge 'context' and possible setups that may form, so I showed them here. If I look over the even larger picture a few things jump out. I'll cover those and then we'll quit.
If I looked at the chart without knowing the timeframe or the issue, and took out any bias I might have, my first thought is that this hasn't corrected enough from the last uptrend (added note for the free commentary for clarity: I'm referring to the entire secular 'bull market' run from the early 80's here). Picture it as a 1-minute or 3-minute ES chart. I would think the correction isn't over.
I would think it did an AB leg down, then it just finished a BC leg up, and now it's going to do a CD leg and complete a corrective ABCD. I have, and might here, try to trade the CD leg down, if this was a 1-minute ES chart. Tell this to anyone (do the CD price projection and you'll see why) and they think you are insane beyond any hope.
If I was thinking this was another possible scenario, this BC 'bull market' leg would be a 5-wave impulse move. That's not what I would expect, generally. This has all the Elliot wavers saying this can't be, and so they are saying this must be a wave a of an abc (what I would call the AB leg of an ABCD) up. To that I say no. I have seen many, many cases of clear corrective areas of 5 waves, like a wave 4 that was a perfect impulsive 5-wave (not an abcde correction).
An example was that EBAY wave 4 bounce play I highlighted a while back (it's in the archives), where wave 4 was a textbook 5-wave impulsive move. It happens. Strict Elliot wavers have no idea how to explain it, but I am a 'practical Elliot waver', and it happens. This may be one of the times when it does, and it would fool a lot of people. No one is looking for it, that's for sure.
So, if this is the case this down move may not be an ABCD, but a 5-wave impulsive move that carries down a lot further. Again, the unfolding structure will give me clues as to what setups I want to play. And that's all I care about. None of this may unfold, and that's just fine with me. I'm just showing the reasoning I use to assist me with my setups. All I care about is finding the setups. I hope you can use my thinking process here to help you learn how I do what I do. What I have shown varies little for me from tick charts to monthly charts."
I hope that you have enjoyed this commentary. What you saw today in here is just a fraction of what I post in the members' section each and every time I post there. As I said, most of it is setups in advance, and detailed discussion on my application of the methodology. I especially focus on finding the synergies between my Fibonacci groupings techniques, the patterns I use, and median lines and other lines, in order to find the setups that meet my criteria. If it isn't practical for me, and focused on actual setups I can trade, it's not in there.
Next weekend I will be mentoring a student, so the commentary might be delayed until Monday. Likely I will start working on it early so I can have it on time, but I'm leaving it open that I may delay it a little. My first responsibility, as far as commentary, is to post for my members, so I can't work on this commentary until after I get to that. And after days of extremely intense non-stop work with a student, I usually have less than zero left. So the next commentary will be next weekend's edition, posted probably by Sunday April 24, 2005, but maybe not until Monday.
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